ZeonChar (ZeonChar@Mindspring.com)
Sat, 10 Mar 2001 14:32:28 -0800

Very good reveiw, Thanks! I also am a big Macross 7 fan and love it for just
the way it is.

~Amanda R.
----- Original Message -----
From: "garrick lee" <goner4sure@yahoo.com>
To: <gundam@aeug.org>
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 5:51 PM
Subject: RE: [gundam] Am I a Bad Gundam Fan?

> *preemptively and retroactively dodges all stomps
> headed his way*
> anyway...
> after mulling it over with 0080 and wing, i think i've
> closing in on my problem with g wing. i still like
> wing, overall, but there's always been something that
> prevents wing from being inducted into the "all time
> favorites" category, to me.
> gundam wing is detached. for all its theatrics, it
> remains distant to the viewer...just something on tv
> that fails to leave a more lasting impact. i dunno if
> it's the 90's thing -- to be detached, emotionless,
> lackluster and to take things in stride, to be "cool".
> some neo-gothic-zen thingamajiggybob as embodied by
> heero yuy (don't anybody give me that "it's spelled
> hiro yui, dammit" crap, i'm in no mood for anal
> idiocy). wing just doesn't warm up in a way that's
> cozy, in the way it shakes a leg at byzantine baroque
> shakespearean storytelling. it doesn't tackle the
> issues of war, love and peace head on and in your face
> like traditional gundam does.
> the threat of war and tragedy of ceaseless fighting is
> flat and unmoving in gundam wing.
> yes, there were many scenes of carnage in wing --
> quattre in the town, with the old man selling fruits;
> wufei and salieh and the resistance fighters; quattre
> and the maganarc; trowa and the circus being
> demolished by oz loyalist nuts; etc.
> but they all failed to move. the characters were two
> dimensional in the figurative and literal sense -- and
> i'm not just talking about the 5 boys...even noin,
> une, salieh, the 5 mad scientists, trieze,
> zechs...they were cookie cutter characters without any
> real and serious depth. shoot me for a mad dog, but
> relena, with all her out of this world philosophy was
> the most developed character in wing. they don't act
> like they have interest or desire in life, despite all
> the prep talk by trowa or catherine about how precious
> life is. they're not affected by the conflict in the
> way amuro and the whole crew of white base was in
> 0079, or al and the children in 0080. the 8th ms team
> showed the displacement of life in war with the crew
> and their own agendas aside from the war they were
> fighting (elledore, anyone?). even 0083 did a better
> job of showing the human-ness of the characters. wing
> doesn't come close. all issues of war and tragedy are
> theoretical and statistical in wing.
> to me, superrobot fighting style of wing isn't a big
> problem. macross got away with more superheroic mecha
> hijinks than wing (remember hikaru catching minmei in
> the canopy shenanigan?), but maybe because macross had
> a more compelling drama...and that it's a character
> story at heart...
> as someone who grew up on super robot anime, i can
> heartily assure people that you can still tell a good
> story with non-realistic non-militaristic fight
> choreography.
> (as an aside, people often slam macross 7 for
> regressing to a "monster of the week" show in later
> episodes -- i don't think "regress" is the proper
> word, and i don't think that's a valid accusation in
> the first place...but you'd have to like the super
> robot classics in the first place and remember the
> fact that 'monster of the week' shows were a very
> valid template for animes of old...very valid and
> still hip, in my opinion :P).
> -garr
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