Fuller, Bill (bill.fuller@eds.com)
Fri, 9 Mar 2001 12:28:22 -0500

I think this is a problem that we're just going to have to deal with, and
not dwell on.
Let's face it, giant robots aren't for everyone. And even anime people(yes,
them to) can be shallow and see it only for the robots when there's other
aspects to enjoy.
It seems that the mecha fan is the bottom of the pile, just below
hentai(don't get it, but oh well).

If they don't like it, then they don't like it. Nothing wrong with that. And
there's nothing wrong to keep trying with different shows(08th, CCA, F91,
etc) to see if you can spark their interest somehow. One of them is bound to
do it, since they all have different aspects to enjoy.

We can't expect everyone to appreciate Gundam, that's just not going to

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Federico Makabenta [mailto:yenm@iconn.com.ph]
> Sent: Friday, 09 March, 2001 11:46
> To: gundam@aeug.org
> Subject: Re: [gundam] MSG's animation and its North American debut
> Funny though, I watched the first movie again because a local
> (Philippines)
> University based anime club is considering it for a showing.
> They want to
> borrow my VHS copy of it for viewing... :)
> Anyway, I do have fears of showing it and finding out later
> people do not
> really appreciate it. A friend experimented with Patlabor for
> a while that
> turned out well in anime showings - but that consists mainly
> of character
> studies. 4 eps. of 0083 was attempted to be shown by them -
> people found the
> story good, but it wasn't enough to sustain interest and they
> shelved it for
> the meanwhile. Now the Gundam movies. This is something that
> still has
> roots to Giant Robot stuff from the 70s that the new
> generation don't want
> to touch with a 10-foot stick. I'm dealing with people who
> haven't really
> paid much attention to any mecha anime save for Gundam Wing and Eva.
> I'm trying to find the right catch or train of thought to
> entice people
> there to watch it. I say its a classic, yes. I say its one of
> those things
> that you must watch, yes. But still no encouragement or the
> spark in their
> eyes that'll get them off their seats to seek out a copy of
> it. Almost all
> of them have never seen it, the club prez herself isn't
> really interested in
> watching it - just presenting it for the show. :)
> Quite funny for MSG to have a double standard while they're
> willing to try
> out animated classics like Horus: Prince of the Sun or the
> older Ghibli
> stuff. That's the problem I face here in introducing MS
> Gundam. Mecha shows
> have been polarized somewhat in another category altogether
> save for GWing
> and Eva.
> Fed
> > From: Nicholas "Echo|Fox" Paufler
> > In preperation for Mobile Suit Gundam this fall (or late
> summer, whatever
> it
> > ends up being) I decided to finally watch the 3 First Gundam movies.
> Kinda
> > strange that I've seen at least a little of every series
> _except_ First
> > Gundam, but whatever =P
> > After watching part I (dubbed ... truly an experience no
> one should ever
> > have to go through) and part II (Subbed, thankfully) I'm
> really not sure
> > where the accusations of "bad" animation comes in.
> Technically speaking,
> the
> > animation is quite good, it seems to me it's the _style_ of
> the animation
> > that people are questioning. That's just the way anime was
> drawn back
> then,
> > it's not "Bad" in any way. Yes, the character designs are fairly
> oldschool,
> > but they work and manage to convey a lot of emotion while
> doing it. Some
> of
> > the more 70's style mechanicals don't look so hot on paper
> (Gog, Acguy,
> > etc), but (like the Turn A Gundam) look fine and fit in
> with the visual
> > style when you see them in motion. There are going to be an
> awful lot of
> > Zaku fans later this year, and I tell ya, seeing the Dom's
> move is too
> cool.
> > Obvoiusly the story is still classic and the fact that
> characters do die
> is
> > going to be an interesting adjustment for the new
> generation of Wing fans.
> > You just meet Ranba Ral (Without a doubt, one of my
> favorite Zeon pilots
> ...
> > right up with with Norris ... strangely enough, both pilot
> Gouf's :P) and
> > start to respect him and ... poof. It's going to be a shock
> to people
> > brought up on American TV. Ryu's sacrifice, no bashing
> intended, makes any
> > of the characters in Wing's actions pale in comparison.
> > Oh. And Kikka, Katsu, and Retsu are just too cute =)
> >
> > Finally seeing MSG has pretty much alleviated any fears I
> still had about
> > its North American debut. Assuming it gets a solid dub job
> and Cartoon
> > Network markets it properly it could very well be a
> smashing success, not
> > just a springboard to the later series. The way I see it,
> the new fans
> will
> > watch it because it's Gundam. They may not like it right
> away, but within
> a
> > handful of episodes the story should grab them. From
> occasionally poking
> my
> > head into message boards and such predominantly populated by North
> American
> > Wing fans, the story is given as a primary reason for
> liking it, at least
> as
> > often as the bishounen characters and mechanics. This gives
> me hope =)
> >
> > This has been your extended ramble from me for the day. You
> may now carry
> on
> > with your usual business ;p
> >
> > ---
> > Nicholas "Echo|Fox" Paufler
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> > "Knowledge is power. Power corrupts. Study hard. Be evil."
> > "Hail Eris ... All hail Discordia ... Hail, she what done it all!"
> >
> >
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