David F (lioconvoy@home.com)
Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:26:29 -0800


Do you even own either of the 2 macplus toys in question. I own both, the
bandai vf-19 and the Yamato (aka Toycom) yf-19 and I must say that the
version 2 of the yf-19 is an incredible improvement over bandai's attempt.
Bandai's is solid plastic, the fact that Bandai is re-issueing them at the
same price as Yamato's is the inexcusable part of all this. A piece of
brittle cheap plastic VS a very solid diecast work of art, come on now.

Oh great, now you got me posting off topic. 8)

D

Gundam rules!!

----- Original Message -----
From: "garrick lee" <goner4sure@yahoo.com>
To: <gundam@aeug.org>
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: [gundam] "transforming" kits

>
> --- "Matt, defender of stuff that is pretty cool!"
> <mhanyo1@umbc.edu> wrote:
> > just wondering what the general consensus was on the
> > list regarding
> > so-called "transforming" model kits. I just spent
> > about 15 minutes trying to
> > get a VF-19 kai to go from gerwalk to jet mode, with
> > pieces falling
> > everywhere and things not connecting right. I have
> > trouble with my MG Zeta,
> > as well, as a Gundam it doesn't pose very well, and
> > as the wave rider it uh,
> > pretty much collapses on itself.
> >
> > What I don't get is, what's the big deal? They make
> > these toys that
> > transform - I've got a VF-19 that I took apart and
> > painted piece by piece,
> > and managed to reassemble it and it still works. Why
> > not just make the
> > "transforming" kits of higher quality plastics and
> > more flexible joints, but
> > more expensive?
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
>
> exactly my beef with all of the valyrie model kits.
> plus, the fact that they need part swapping, when
> they're already fragile as heck.
>
> which extends to my beef with the macross plus toys of
> toycom release. crud. bandai got it right the first
> time with the classic valkyries and the plastic mac7
> valks (superb toys!). what the hell is toycom
> mucking around with the macross plus valks for? i
> still think the yf-19 screw ups are inexcusable (and
> combined with the enormous price tag, almost
> unforgiveable) -- insofar as the mech design of yf-19
> (toycom) is a direct carbon copy of vf-19 (bandai),
> with only cosmetic differences, and no significant
> structural design differences whatsoever.
>
> the only reason i can think of as to why they are
> having a tough time with the fragile valkyrie kits is
> that they are prioritizing proportions and technical
> accuracy in ALL THREE MODES over workability of the
> entire kit.
>
> as for the transformable gundam kits...i don't like
> 'em. i'm not really fond of transformable gundams in
> the first place (amuro complex :P) or gundams with
> core fighters.
>
> technically, my problems with transformables are -- it
> essentially means that the structure of the suits are
> several magnitudes weaker (c'mon, the zeta is
> practically hollow in many parts when in mobile suit
> mode...ugh). it also means flakey unfeasible
> uberfunky mechanics (double zeta, fazz, sentinel,
> enough said) and that don't make my day any. most of
> the time, gundam transformables are also ugly like
> heck (wing gundam, airmaster, psycho, zz).
>
> hobbywise, i just can't stand the thought of paint
> jobs scratching as the various parts mesh and grind
> together while the mech transforms. ugh. hobbywise,
> also, the fragile structure of transformables mechs
> reveal themselves all too readily that it kind of
> hinders the suspension of belief regarding mecha model
> kits (and what they're supposed to simulate).
>
> -garr
> long live noble grunt mecha!
>
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