Gundam EZEight (rx_79g_ez_8@yahoo.com)
Sun, 18 Feb 2001 22:55:39 -0800 (PST)


you sound like some one in vn would say right now. you
feel exactly the way i do. the americans to you is
like the commies in my country, except for the fact
that US isn't ruling over you with an iron fist.
--- Franz G Co <darkholy@saintly.com> wrote:
> ------Original Message------
> From: Gundam EZEight <rx_79g_ez_8@yahoo.com>
> To: gundam@aeug.org
> Sent: February 19, 2001 4:56:39 AM GMT
> Subject: Re: [gundam] Next PG
>
> When the Americans came during WWII to "liberate"
> us, half of the
> archipalego had been liberated by the Hukbalahap
> (Hukbo Laban sa mga Hapon -
> Troop Against the Japanese), who by chance hppened
> to be communists. The
> Americans then proceeded to "liberate" us from our
> own countrymen who had
> fought so hard for independence.
>
> There's something called economic imperialism which
> is the exact thing
> happening here. The Amreicanns control the market
> even if we are supposedly
> independent. Why do youthink the US want's free
> trade so much, so that they
> can penetrate other markets more easily. This would
> be fine if there was
> perfect competition (economically speeking) however
> the American (and other)
> companies tend to be bigger than local companies
> therefore competition in
> unequal.
>
> >the philippines did not start out to be communists
> >though. that's the difference. but i can see that
> >filipinos are much better off than the viets right
> now
> >anywayz. considering the fact that a Gundam can
> cost
> >an average vietnamese a whole month's salary, i
> don't
> >think US economic involvement would be all that
> bad.
> --- Franz G Co <darkholy@saintly.com> wrote:
> > Yet look at us - the Philippines. Thanks to the
> US
> > "educating" us for
> > independence we're just as dependent of the US
> > economy for ours. This same
> > thing woulod have happened to Vietnam, it woul've
> > been another economic
> > slave of the United States.
> >
> > ------Original Message------
> > From: Gundam EZEight <rx_79g_ez_8@yahoo.com>
> > To: gundam@aeug.org
> > Sent: February 19, 2001 4:17:18 AM GMT
> > Subject: Re: [gundam] Next PG
> >
> >
> > what the hell are you? a commie?
> > if the US had stayed in a while longer, Vietnam
> > would
> > not be lost to the commies. if Johnson (?) had NOT
> > carpet bombed Vietnam but instead give sometime
> > figuring out guerilla warfare, the US would have
> > won,
> > and Vietnam will be truly independent. what i see
> in
> > vietnam right now is scary: everyone wants to be
> > foreign. everyone thinks korean things are better
> > than
> > vietnamese things. i don't blame them really,
> > because
> > the things the vietnamese can make are crap mainly
> > due
> > to the fact that commies are in control.
> > no form of government is truly perfect, but
> > democracy
> > is the best form of government right now. i
> > certainly
> > don't want commies running this country.
> > --- garrick lee <goner4sure@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- DuckFlesh@aol.com wrote:
> > > > In a message dated 2/18/01 8:43:53 PM Central
> > > > Standard Time,
> > > > rx_79g_ez_8@yahoo.com writes:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > >communists and what they did to us. i'm
> just
> > > > saying<
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thats Just wrong. China's communist two. And
> > Cuba,
> > > > and North Korea. I guess
> > > > every one there is inferior because you don't
> > like
> > > > communists. ohy... this
> > > > serious attitude isn't me... I have to start a
> > > flame
> > > > war, fast!
> > >
> > > uhm....i find myself agreeing with duckflesh,
> and
> > > that's scary. :P
> > >
> > > not all chinese (*ahem cough harrumph*) are
> > > communists, not all vietnamese are communists,
> not
> > > all
> > > koreans are communists, etc. etc., not all
> germans
> > > are
> > > nazis, you get the idea.
> > >
> > > ultimately, not all communists are bad guys (i
> > take
> > > it
> > > gundamez8 is referring to the vietnam war? if
> so,
> > > you
> > > DO know that US butted in in the first place,
> and
> > > the
> > > domino effect theory of the evils of communism
> has
> > > remained effectively a theory ?). you may
> dislike
> > > communISM, but please refrain from blanket
> > > statements
> > > regarding communISTS.
> > >
> > > communists = bad guys --> that's just the
> naive,
> > > and
> > > monochrome picture perfect scenario that the
> > > self-proclaimed champion of democracy (USA)
> wants
> > to
> > > paint. all the while, everyone ignores the
> > failings
> > > of democracy, which is quite possibly one of the
> > > dumbest (though at least humane) forms of
> > government
> > > ever.
> > > then again, i'll be damned if machiavelli is
> > right.
> > > i
> > > refuse to accept that too.
> > >
> > > -garr
> > >
> > >
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