Franz G Co (
Fri, 16 Feb 2001 10:21:21 -0500 (EST)

True, but the last time I tried that i almost botched up my EVA kits. I
prefer going over the messages frm the GML. By the time I'm over I tired
enough to just plop down on the bed and zonk out.

------Original Message------
From: "Richie" <>
To: <>
Sent: February 16, 2001 3:23:26 PM GMT
Subject: Re: [gundam][OT] Insomnia

>Hmmmmm. I actually am also an insomniac, so what I do is >basically work
>a Gundam kit until I feel like I can't concentrate anymore, then >slip in
>some classical music and zonk out right there in the study. My >mom hates
>is, but hey, it gets me to sleep. the only bad thing is that >sometimes I
>get a sore neck in the morning.

----- Original Message -----
From: garrick lee <>
To: <>
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: [gundam][OT] Insomnia

> uhm...well, i do actually make use of melatonin
> (standard 3 mg, though i have sometimes taken 2
> tablets as a desperate measure when i would literally
> toss and turn the whole 7 or so hours of bedtime for
> several nights on end...*ugh*...dreadful dreadful
> feeling...probably worse than waking up in a gutter).
> as paul said, it's naturally produced, so you're
> really just taking supplements, rather than whole
> other foreign substance like steroids or antibiotics.
> since it's natural, there should be no adverse
> reactions, and shouldn't be addictive. too much,
> however, could still be bad (you could wake up a day
> later than you planned, and if you keep taking too
> much, you might suffer long term effects of possibly
> reduced melatonin production due to overdependence on
> the supplement).
> first few times you use it, it could quite literally
> knock you out like a log. gradually wean yourself of
> melatonin, as your body should churn out the substance
> naturally. your sleep sched should return to normal.
> if not...perhaps a trip to the doc is needed.
> other methods...i try to turn up the air conditioning,
> to make it really cold. this may or may not work for
> you...but being born in the year of the snake makes it
> so for me (hehe) -- cold atmosphere makes me drowsy,
> while too warm makes awake. like a
> snake.
> (er...and no, actually falling asleep due to fatigue
> is not an option for insomniacs. as a sometime
> insomniac, i know how itis to not be able to fall
> sleep no matter how bad your bones ache. it just
> doesn't happen...and it really sucks...)
> or...if you're wide awake, you may as well do
> something productive. put some extra hours into study
> or work, or reading or model kit sessions or whatever
> your pleasure is. the point being -- tossing and
> turning in bed (with the knowledge that you HAVE to
> sleep but you CAN'T) is actually more exhausting than
> simply staying up doing something anyway. at that
> point, it's all psychological. (this isn't an
> option for me, as i feel that i need the bedrest for
> my body, no matter how hyper my mind is, as i lead an
> active is still rest.)
> other common sense suggestions -- avoid caffeine, and
> assorted spicy foods, don't go to bed on an empty
> stomach, think calm thoughts (no reading of flamewar
> archives, hehe). if you're not getting exercise, get
> some. if you're too much of a gym rat, lay off.
> -garr
> --- Paul Fields <> wrote:
> > > Okay people, I've been having trouble sleeping
> > for about a week
> >
> > > P.S. Please nothing that involves some sort of OTC
> > medicine, I desire to
> > > solve my insomnia naturally.
> >
> > I guess this precludes the use of Melatonin (the
> > chemical that is normally
> > produced by the brain when the sun goes down, and
> > signals the body its
> > time to sleep) since the body is 'supposed' to make
> > it anyway I consider
> > it more of a supplement than medicine. A 3mg tablet
> > is good for 8 hours
> > of real good deep sleep. Often used by travelers
> > going East to West who
> > need to reset their body's clock to a new night/day
> > schedule.
> >
> > Second method - blankets, lots of blankets. Make the
> > body warm enough
> > and it will slow down the metabolism a lot, I used
> > to do this when I worked
> > 14 hour days as a landscaper and could only make
> > time for 5 hours sleep
> > a night, since your body is doing less work, you get
> > more 'rest'.
> >
> > Paul
> >
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