Gundam EZEight (
Thu, 15 Feb 2001 10:58:21 -0800 (PST)

1984 is a long time ago. i was one then...
the acronyms...ALEX made sense, but after the PG
Gundam, EFSF was invented (right?), and UNT Spacy went
to hell. what was the federation before is a shipyard
and why the hell is Gundam an acronym for "General
Utility Non Discontinuity Augmentaion Maneuvering"?
personally, i would have liked "GUNDAM" to be the name
of the MS.

but Amuro was the first newtype the feds knew about?
where did they dig up info on newtype to develop the
ALEX so early? the captured info from Zeons? cuz Zeons
had the Newtype corps and Flanagan agency. may be
someone was captured?
--- -Z- <> wrote:
> > So basically you're confirming the fact that the
> Fed's
> > had realized that Newtype existed, but they didn't
> > know what they could do or simply what they are?
> Bright Noah as much as says so in a conversation
> with Mirai that was overheard
> by Amuro -- he wonders if Amuro is a Newtype, then
> Mirai asks what a Newtype is
> and he replies that no one really knows but they're
> supposed to have some kind
> of special aptitude with machines, like Amuro's with
> thee Gundam. Bright goes
> on to say that he doesn't think Newtype in general
> and Amuro in particular can
> be trusted, since no one knows exactly what they can
> -- or might -- do.
> X-Men fans will recognize the sentiment. I myself
> have used the phrase "Teenage
> Newtype Gundam Pilots" as a play on Teenage Mutant
> Ninja Turtles just because of
> that similarity. It should be noted that TMNT was
> itself a parody of X-Men,
> inspired by Kim Metzger's disparagement of the group
> as "teenage mutant ninjas
> with mohawks" in The Comics Buyers Guide, shortly
> after Storm was remodeled with
> a mohawk circa 1984.
> > and
> > you're saying that even without knowing what NT's
> > could do, they went ahead and made a Newtype use
> MS
> > anyway? and you're also saying that the Alex was
> > developed for any Newtype rather than just Amuro
> > himself?
> I'm not saying this -- the retconned Gundam
> development implies it.
> In First Gundam, Amuro was the first and, for all
> intents and purposes, only
> Newtype of which the Federation had any knowledge.
> In Gundam 0080 Episode 3,
> when Chris complains that the NT-1 is too fast, the
> technician tells her: "It's
> a Newtype mobile suit. You're good but you're out
> of your league here. You'd
> have to be some sort of freak to pilot this thing
> properly [the way it was
> intended]. I hear they're going to assign it to a
> pilot on White Base." The
> implication is that, although the suit will go to
> Amuro once it's tested, it
> wasn't designed specifically for him but for Newtype
> in general. This
> implication is reinforced by the development dates
> in the timeline, which, as
> you noted, clearly show the NT-1 in development
> before Amuro's alleged Newtype
> abilities came to anyone's attention.
> > and thanks for the timeline. it works really well.
> >
> > I do feel bad for the Mark-II. it was supposed to
> > feature movable frame, but the peeps at Bandai
> decided
> > to throw it all to hell by making the Zaku and
> first
> > Gundam feature internal frame. as i recall, the
> Zaku
> > has a monocoque system, and the Gundam had
> semicoque?
> Correct. Monocoque for the Zaku, semi-monocoque for
> the Gundam, movable frame
> in the Z Gundam era. As I recall, the RMS-099 Rick
> Dias was the first movable
> frame MS in the original continuity, but it's been
> so long I really can't
> remember.
> > they sacrificed accuracy for the sake of something
> not
> > much more than a toy. I'm not complaining, but i'm
> > just saying that they should stick to what they
> said
> > in the beginning and give the PG models an
> > exoskeleton.
> Well, the frame certainly makes for [a] easier
> construction and [b] a more
> posable model and, up until MG, the only glimpse we
> got "under the hood" was the
> Real Gundam series, where one side of the MS was cut
> away to show a bunch of
> meaningless works underneath.
> Personally, I get more het up about the stupid
> acronyms than the mechanical
> "accuracy" of a machine that they're making up as
> they go along.
> -Z-
> -
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