Richie Ramos (gaijin@i-manila.com.ph)
Fri, 9 Feb 2001 12:52:03 +0800


I would argue the point on the fact that because of the retcons, the UC
timeline has gotten a bit mangled. BUT, I agree that it has a better Human
story. GW is kinda like a superhero version of UC. I also found the GW
storyline to be a bit more, well, gothic and complex -- which unfortunately,
took away from the humanity of it, while UC was always refreshingly,
diarmingly human at the core.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Franz G Co" <darkholy@saintly.com>
To: <gundam@aeug.org>
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 9:27 AM
Subject: Re: (rant)Re:[gundam] Sieg Zeon

> ------Original Message------
> From: "Richie Ramos" <gaijin@i-manila.com.ph>
> To: <gundam@aeug.org>
> Sent: February 6, 2001 4:25:34 AM GMT
> Subject: Re: (rant)Re:[gundam] Sieg Zeon
>
> The point I think is that Wing (and G for that matter) tends to go closer
to
> anime physics while UC tries as much as posible to stick to real world
> physics and then creating explanations for why certains things are
possible.
>
> Even my girlfriend who is a Wing/bishonen fan admits that GWing is "Gundam
> Lite", UC just has a more tightly woven universe.
>
> >People, people...all that stuff is basically anhime physics! >LOL!
>
> >There's no use arguijng such things, because that's the way it >works iin
> >anime...
>
> >If you want realism, watch footage from the Real invasion of >Normandy.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <AzNkId714@aol.com>
> To: <gundam@aeug.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 11:43 AM
> Subject: Re: (rant)Re:[gundam] Sieg Zeon
>
>
> > In a message dated 2/5/01 9:35:16 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> > samas_1@hotmail.com writes:
> >
> >
> > > And while I'm at it, why don't I take apart your "Why Gundam Wing
Sucks"
> > > page. The least you could've done was put up some substantial
> complaints:
> > >
> > >
> > > The Gundams are nearly invincible.
> > >
> > > Except when they get damaged, that is. Right? Or when they are
> rendered
> > > helpless by holding the colonies hostage. I liked the way Lady Une
and
> > > later Treize defeated the Gundams not by superior military force, but
by
> > > handicapping their will to fight.
> > >
> > >
> > > OZ mobile suits are worse then Zaku Is .
> > >
> > > Says who? Considering that the Leo at least has a full set of armor,
> I'd
> > > have to disagree.
> > >
> > >
> > > Quatre's an idiot. He says hes sorry while he slaughters things.
> > >
> > > You would prefer he laugh maniacally? At least he fells remorse for
> having
> > > to kill.
> > >
> > >
> > > Wu Fei is a malchauvenist Pig.
> > >
> > > And exactly where does this affect the series? Monsha was a bit of a
> pig
> > > himself, I guess that means Gundam 0083 sucks!
> > >
> > >
> > > Noin is an airhead. (if only she had killed Wu Fei...)
> > >
> > > Ah, yes, the woman who managed to aquire, paint, and modify an entire
> army
> > > of Turus Mobile Suits for the Sanc Kingdom, under everybody's nose,
and
> > > nobody know until they were deployed? Yep, some airhead.
> > >
> > >
> > > The Wing Gundam Self Destructed. Hiro lived. It was repaired. you cant
> live
> > > through that explosion, and you cant repair a pile of ash.
> > >
> > > Well look at the scene again. Heero was standing on the edge of the
> open
> > > cockpit of the gundam. He was literally blown out of it. Considering
> the
> > > force of the explosion, had the cockpit been closed, he would've been
> > > pulped
> > > against the forward viewscreen. And he STILL was almost killed by it.
> He
> > > survives because of three things:
> > >
> > > 1. He's tough
> > >
> > > 2. The way the Gundam's self-destruction system works(see below)
> > >
> > > 3. Act of the Script Gods. Kinda like Amuro, with only the manual in
> his
> > > lap(and still reading it, mind you), taking out two experienced Zaku
> II's
> > > his very first time out in the RX-78-2 Gundam. Or does that make
> MSG(FG)
> > > suck?
> > >
> > > As for the Gundam itself, It's how the Self-destruction system works.
> It
> > > only destroys the inner workings of the suit, leaving it a useless
hunk
> of
> > > metal... or gundanium. Not, say, an uncontrolled reactor explosion.
> Given
> > > the fact that Heero technically wasn't even in the gundam at the time,
> his
> > > survival is not quite as suprising.
> > >
> > >
> > > After Death Scythe is shot several times in the head at close range,
it
> > > isn't even scratched.
> > >
> > > If you'll notice, the claw of the Cancer isn't blown off, either. The
> > > pilot
> > > was using low-powered torpedoes, not exactly expecting to find a
moving
> > > Gundam down there.
> > >
> > > And shouldn't this be part of your first point? Or could you not
think
> of
> > > enough gripes?
> > >
> > >
> > > The gundams survive Nuclear missiles
> > >
> > > When? No nukes were ever fired at all in the *entire series*. In
fact,
> > > when the nukes at New Edwards Base were set to self-destruct, Duo and
> > > Quatre
> > > were just as worried as everyone else. If you'll remember, Heero shut
> the
> > > missiles down before they went off.
> > >
> > > So now you've sunk low enough to make stuff up, is that it?
> > >
> > > And the list goes on...
> > >
> > > No, considering the fact that the 2nd to last was taking from a
previous
> > > one, and the last was an outright lie, I'd say that the list is pretty
> much
> > > done here.
> > >
> >
> > one point for wing (still a million for uc) hmm... i agree w/ the wing
> > defense... and most of the kids are just emotional troubled (I chose not
> to
> > be imaginative with this description :P) and... during the EW oav wing
> zero
> > fell apart in the end... hmm... invincible? think not... its crazy how
> tough
> > those kids are though (it IS fictional)
> >
>
>
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