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Burke Rukes (mechadomain2000@yahoo.com)
Tue, 9 Jan 2001 16:07:54 -0800 (PST)
Mark writes,
> Far as I recall, the R-2P isn't related to the
> Acht Zaku either -
> rather, it's a byproduct of the Gelgoog's first
> incarnation. While the
> original MS-11 project didn't produce a complete
> mobile suit, it did
> yield some working parts, specifically a new,
> high-output reactor. The R-
> 2P is basically an R-1A type Zaku with this new
> reactor installed, on the
> theory that this would give it enough power to drive
> a beam rifle.
Ooookay, I just looked at your writeup on the R-2P on
your site... I guess when I read it the first time
around, I got confused thinking the MS-11 you were
referring to was the Acht Zaku... my bad, now I know
better. Guess I'll have to go back and rewrite yet
another one of my Burke's files. :)
> What I'm no longer entirely sure of is whether the
> R-2P was created
> during the initial development of the Gelgoog, i.e.
> to test out the
> original MS-11's components, or whether it was
> kitbashed together after
> the project was relaunched in an attempt to produce
> a stopgap machine.
> But either way, the fact that the R-2P wasn't
> suitable for production
> indicates that there was indeed a fatal flaw in the
> original MS-11, whose
> parts it was borrowing. Thus, Zeonic's rival
> candidate to the Rick Dom -
> the standard R-2 type - reverted to the original
> reactor.
Well, your R-2P writeup indicates that the reactor and
cooling system it was testing was for the original
MS-11 (later MS-14) project, and that it was capable
of using beam weapons. You're probably right that
there was probably a serious flaw... mabye the reactor
& cooling system weren't "safe" enough to handle
firing a beam rifle just yet (i.e. the reactor tried
to blow when it overheated from too much power being
pulled from it or something like that), so the R-2P
was canned... and thus closing this chapter of the
MS-11/MS-14 Gelgoog development.
> While all these details are pretty confusing, I'm
> relatively certain
> that the MS-11 whose parts were borrowed by the R-2P
> was the first-draft
> Gelgoog, rather than the later Acht Zaku. Of course,
> the fact that Zeonic
> was almost able to create a beam weapon-capable Zaku
> may well have
> inspired the Acht Zaku's subsequent development.
Could be... though I guess that's unimportant at this
point, since we seem to have the MS-11/MS-14 design
history problems all worked out now. ;)
> And don't forget the Gyan, which apparently was
> also restarted for the
> same reason. The Zeonic-Zimmad rivalry goes waaaay
> back. :-)
The Gyan was a re-started project as well? I wonder
what it's original design concept was supposed to
be... considering the final YMS-15 wasn't much more
than a beam saber-swinging, missile-lobbing MS
designed to work side-by-side with Doms...
> And why not? On paper, it sounds as good as or
> better than the Hizack... :-)
Yeah, now THERE'S a mobile suit that makes you wonder
"why bother?"...
> >Ummm... who's the "Stream Base trio"?
>
> They're a team of legendary modelers who first
> showcased their work in
> Hobby Japan's "How to Build Gundam" books, and went
> on to do all sorts of
> cool stuff, including writing all the MSV background
> material. The lineup
> consisted of Katsumi Kawaguchi (who now works for
> Bandai, supervising the
> Master Grade product line and editing third-party
> reference books like
> the MSV Collection File), Masaya Takahashi (writer
> of Gundam Sentinel and
> Kondo's MS Senki comic), and Masahiro Oda (the point
> man on the MSV
> background material).
>
> Impressive resume, eh? As far as I'm concerned,
> Stream Base are at the
> pinnacle of Gundam authorities, followed by
> Shindosha (the studio that
> produced most of the Gundam Entertainment Bibles and
> Data Collections -
> Mika Akitaka worked there when he was designing
> stuff for Gundam ZZ) and
> Studio Hard (the editors of MS ERA and B-CLUB).
Cool... speaking of books, would you consider the
Dengeki Data Collections to probably be a more
accurate (and mabye complete) source of tech notes
than the Gundam Mechanics series?
> Heh! Well, I think this set of name changes are
> final. I've updated all
> the spellings on my site (which wasn't exactly
> trivial), so you should be
> able to use that as a guide with a good measure of
> confidence.
I'll have to go check those out... I just finished
writing up a whole new batch of "Burke's" files today
(getting well into the ZZ stuff now), so I think I'll
take a couple of days to scour my site for mistakes (I
know there's plenty ^_^) and work on some corrections
before I update my site on Friday.
And now I shall close this topic with a gracious bow
and "thank you" to Mark. :)
=====
-Burke Rukes
mechadomain2000@yahoo.com
The Mecha Domain - http://mechadomain.gundam.com
"You can't fight City Hall, but you can goddamn sure blow it up!" - George Carlin
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