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Ricky Lai (x-lai@uchicago.edu)
Sat, 16 Dec 2000 01:42:07 -0600
Spelling is no big deal, as long as the meaning went across. I'll give ample
warning next time.
Edmund Chiu wrote:
> > Actually, I was just kidding...
>
> Try to warn a guy next time, you know...
I agree that 0080 is one of the richest stories among all Gundam installments.
As for 0083, it's a pseudo-Hollywood style action flick. Lots of adrenaline and
hardcore mecha action, not to mention superb attention to realism.
> I guess you get easily "impress" on stuff like that - personally, I got
> "impressed" by the ending of 0080 more because I actually care about the
> characters - those people that die in 0083 are just people, since they
> really didn't have any screen time. I know I sound heartless but after you
> watch Gundam and read about a few colony drop, you learn to stomach those
> stuff...
The complexity in 0083 comes from the Stardust Operation, which does involve a
few things happening at the same time. It is, after all, not a suspense movie
of thriller.
> I just mean that in 0083, what you see is what you get. It isn't like
> The Sixth Sense, where there are a lot of things happening beside just the
> story...
Sorry, haven't checked that out yet.
> Like they did with the original Gundam series...
Exactly. Then the Fed is not in the position to get their hands into
spacenoid's business.
> Didn't you watch the Gundam series? That's what most of the conflict is
> about - the Feds still insist that they rule from Earth, when they have no
> idea what living in space is like.
Char definitely went out to take revenge on Amuro in CCA, for killing the woman
who could become his mother-figure. As much as Lalai, his lover at that time,
tried to hold him back from the frontlines, he clearly indicated that he will
not give up on piloting until Amuro went down. Once he has settled scores with
Amuro, he would do whatever Lalai wishes him to. Therefore, personal revenge is
part of his secret agenda below his cause for spacenoid independence. In 0087,
he obviously tried to do the right thing -- and I agree with most of his actions
-- but it is evident that he was fast getting sick of his position towards the
end of the saga, especially after being interrogated by two more powerful and
radical NTs. I read that it is for that reason he chose to disappear after
Gryps War, possibly to work on his counterattack. As for his relationship with
Mineva, I never understood why he harbors such caring feelings for the only
surviving member of the family he so desperately wanted to -- and eventually did
-- wipe out. I am very interested in learning when he managed to smuggle Mineva
from beneath Hamaan's nose.
> I really think you got Char wrong, especially after the end of the
> original Gundam. He mostly have gotten over his "revenege" on the Zabi
> family, hence he saved the Zabi girl in ZZ (it was never shown on screen,
> but in the Zeta Gundam game, they clearly said that it was Char who "rescue"
> the girl from Haman). He really wanted to do what his father suggested,
> hence he's fighting for AEUG and try so hard to stay out of the spotlight. I
> don't really know what happen to Char that made him do what he did in CCA,
> but I think he's running out of patience...
Stylish and royal like Hamaan? =)
> He's a villain - what do you expect?
Unfortunately, the common person is so intoxicated by the Fed's corruption that
they could not voice their true wishes. Why do people continue ignoring the
fact that aristocracy is the best solution? The mass is incapable of deciding
their own fate, which is why mankind needs capable and just leaders to fish them
out of their wretchedness. It's time that people start to rethink the common
principle for Amuro et al.
> I am not sure if you realized that - but this theme has been played in
> other novels and movies - it should be the people who decide what they
> should be heading toward, not one person (like Haman or Scirocco). That is
> the reason why Camille and Judo, even Amuro are willing to fight for such a
> corrupted government...
Hamaan any day!
> You actually want the people to be ruled by people like Haman or
> Scirocco?
Char was able to execute his plan in such little time because of the Fed's
idiocy. If the Fed was smart and clean enough, they could either foil Char's
plans or but themselves enough time, instead of relying on Londo Bell -- the
only effective gear within the entire structure.
> What do you think they could do - they simply ran out of time and ideas.
> I know it's their fault for not recognizing Char's threat, but then again,
> do you want to be the one who suggest something like moving the people away,
> which would cost a lot of money and MIGHT not be necessary...
Ha ha, genetic mutation -- this sounds like the X-Men theme. If they think
their existence makes too minute a difference, then they have no reason to stand
in the way of movements that acknowledge their value. It is simply senseless to
support a regime that denies them. Are NTs supposedly to be masochistic?
> I think they also understand that there are simply too little number of
> NT to make a difference - how many NT you have seen throughout the series?
> You are lucky if you can find 20 in one series (non natural NT don't count).
> To the Feds, NT are a "genetic mutation" that should be avoided at all cost.
With his GP-03D, Kou is the best personel to stop the colony drop. He might be
a little condescending in thinking that Gato cannot be stopped without him, but
the truth of the matter is, the Fed needs every bit of might to stop the colony
from dropping onto Earth.
> Just watching him when he decide to go against Nina's wishes and join
> the force to stop the colony - the way he said it certainly seem like it's
> more about personal score then his desire to save people. Of course, I could
> be wrong but that's the impression I got from Kou throughout the series,
> especially near the end...
Perhaps he is working on it already. After all, he cannot ask Bandai to keep on
remaking them without giving them a break of a few years.
> Yeah, right - there are already tons of people suggest it yet they still
> wouldn't listen - I really think unless Tomino himself ask Bandai to do it,
> we probably wouldn't see a Zeta remake in our lifetime...
Well, I was certain that you'd be in N. America from your AT&T server, and so I
thought I would have had better luck with Canada, the most popular choice among
HK emigrants.
> > The States?
>
> Finally...
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