Alessandro (changegetta@inwind.it)
Mon, 11 Dec 2000 09:51:08 +0100


Can we really say that every Gundam's pilot, at his first experience with
the white suit, was a top ace? We could say that Gato, taking the Gundam, GP
02 was a Zion top ace but surely Gundam wasn't his mobile suit. Char, Norris
(in 8th team), Gato (in 0083 Gundam) and other pilots of the enemies' forces
are
to be considered top aces. Fed's pilots are lucky but they show us how much
the experience in the battle field is important (was this the real intention
of Gundam's creator?). We see Amuro (sure, he is a New Type, but he is aware
of himself as such just after a certain time), Kou (the only pilot who has
experience at the commands of Gundam and who challenged the Zion's top ace
Gato), and the pilot of ZZ Gundam (a boy receiving New Type's powers by the
seroiusly brain damaged Camille Vidan (pilot in Z Gundam and great New
Type), and what about Seabook in F91 (aren't you going to tell me that he is
the best MS pilot to face Crossbone Vanguard? I don't think so)? I just am
thinking people likes to see common persons (especially young men and boys)
to become the heroes (almost the symbol) of the oppressed (like a new Robin
Hood, or a Zorro).
That's all (of course this is just my opinion).
Alessandro

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Riggs <josephriggs@earthlink.net>
To: <gundam@aeug.org>
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: [gundam] Kou Uraiki [was: Gundam 0083]

> Freedom045@aol.com wrote:
>
> > << >Granted that Kou may not not have started off as the BEST pilot
around,
> > >nevertheless he showed tremendous improvements as the story
progressed.
> > >Although his piloting of a top-of-the-line unit invariably contributes
> > >to his development as a pilot, there is much credit on his part for
> > >commanding GP-01FB well, as the ace-pilot Captain South Burning
> > >commended. >>
> >
> > Anyone could have been a great pilot with the GP-01FB and the GP-03. kou
> > didn't do anything special except get shot down. Look at how Cima just
kicked
> > his ass, and she was flying an old Gelgoog Mariner. Kou got his ass
handed to
> > him.
>
> The reason that happened, though, is that Kou was an idiot (and in all
fairness,
> Nina was being stupid as well by not properly programming the GP-01 with
the
> information Kou was trying to wheedle out of her) and took the GP-01
before it
> had been configured for use in space. Amuro may have been able to pull
off a
> draw under those circumstances, but anyone else would have been hard
pressed,
> IMHO. Kou was an idiot under those circumstances, but his idiocy in that
case
> had nothing to do with his piloting skills. The only way to properly
evaluate
> his piloting skills in this instance would have been if he had taken a GM
out as
> he was supposed to.
>
> > As for Burning's commendation, what is that measured against? no one
else
> > flew the GP-01 except Kou, and Nina's analysis is suspect and biased
because
> > she is obviously going to slant the data in favor of her impotent
boyfriend.
>
> Nina's analysis came before there was anything going on between the two of
them.
> He had apparently started to impress her with his actions in the first two
> episodes, but the majority of her 'sympathy' seems to develop after she
already
> has the results, and is trying to relay them to him.
>
> > <<Contrast the pilots in 0083 with those in 0087/0088, and it's not hard
to
> > see the
> > former simply kick ass! At least Kou is a soldier, who behaves like a
> > warrior shold on the battlefield, unlike those clowns in 0087/0088. >>
> >
> > Now you are saying that Kou could kick Camille's ass? Dem's fightin'
words!
> > Kou whines and cries on the battlefield, he reacts with anger and rage,
> > which results in the near destruction of the GP-01, the loss of the
GP-01Fb
> > and the Dendrobium. He also NEVER defeated Gato in combat.
>
> I haven't seen Zeta, and so I won't comment on it here. And considering
that
> Camille is a newtype, and Kou isn't, I'm fairly certain I have a pretty
good idea
> who would win a duel between the two of them. But as far as Gato goes, I
think
> it would be fairly shocking if Kou did manage to defeat Gato. While Kou
seems to
> have an incredible amount of raw talent, he's got little experience on the
> battlefield. Let's be honest here. If Kou actually had managed to defeat
Gato,
> you'd probably be striking that as another mark against the series.
>
> > Also, to remind you, Kou ended up losing the Full Vernian against Gato.,
> > Despite the fact that the GP-01Fb should have easily outclassed the
GP-02 in
> > melee combat.
>
> Experience counts for a lot. Gato had it in spades. Kou had next to
none. The
> battle doesn't always go to the one with the best piece of technology.
The
> battle goes to the one who is best able to combine what his technology can
do and
> what he can do with his environment. Kou had a lot of raw talent, and
given a
> few months of regular combat experience, he might have been able to beat
Gato.
> But with the limited time he's had, he's lucky to do as well as he does.
>
> junior
>
>
>
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