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Sat, 25 Nov 2000 13:28:13 -0700

Beast Wars was a tragic loss. It had something that few other kids cartoons
(North American, anyway) have ... a consistent, solid story that arced
through the entire season. Characters grew up, changed, lived, and died. The
head writers, Bob Forward and Larry Ditillio had an active net presence and
really did respect original Transformers history (without going into
spoilers, we did see a lot of old faces...).
The sequel, Beast Machines, didn't live up to its predeccessor at all. Since
it was specifically created for Fox Kids, much artistic freedom was lost and
the story suffered ... none of the characters were quite the same, and the
silly "no projectile weapon" rule gave us the fookin' ugly Maximals, and the
somewhat nice Vehicons (shudder. The names, however, were not so good ;p)
Part of the reason I got out of active TransFandom was the dissapointment of
Beast Machines, the overpriced current flock of toys, and the ridiculous
costs involved in trying to rebuild a G1 transformers collection ... I faced
the fact that there were people with more money and less brains than I
willing to drop obscene amounts of money on toys, and I just couldn't afford
to keep up ....
As a Gundam hobbyist, I can collect even old toys for fairly reasonably
prices, along with constantly released new toys and models (Gundam did
restore my long lost interest in modeling) means I'm getting a lot more
"stuff" for my money.

Nicholas "Echo|Fox" Paufler - Home of the High Quality Gundam Image Archive - The Unofficial Home of Outlaw Star
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Roland Thigpen" <>
To: <>
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2000 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: R: [gundam] OT Transfans

> On Sat, 25 Nov 2000 20:00:44 -0000 Miles Reid <> wrote: > > > > > > > >>From: "Alessandro" <> > >>Reply-To: > >>To: <> > >>Subject: R: [gundam] OT Transfans > >>Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 18:39:01 +0100 > >> > >>Sorry. I'm italian and I don't know if you have ever seen a totally CG > >>realized series of Transformers. This series exists and I have seen it. It > >>has arrived with the title of Transformers but, of course, this could be an > >>adapted title. After all, in this series we have some robots fighting the > >>ones against the > >>others (there aren't human beings at all) and they can transform themselves > >>in animals and insects (buzzes, ants and so on). > >>Anyway, if you really havn't ever seen it, I can ensure you that it was > >>nothing of special. > >>Alessandro > > > >Yeah-Beast Wars. But as was said in the Movie 'Wayne's World' 'it's good in > >it's own way but can't stand up to the original' (he was talking about Star > >Trek and Star Trek-The Next Generation.' > > > Although Beast Wars, and the sequel Beast Machines did have a few good characters. I personally loved Silverbolt, Black Arachnia and Rat Trap. Maybe Dinobot too. But I agree, the original Transformers was far better. > > Roland > > ________________________________________________________________ > Get Email, News, Links and The Best Selection at > > - > Gundam Mailing List Archives are available at >

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