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Leslie_R (trojan@atoka.net)
Mon, 30 Oct 2000 23:13:58 -0600
Zhou Tai An wrote:
>
> >Just wondering whether I'm the only person who ISN'T convinced that Newtype
> >ablilties make a pilot invincible to normal humans? I know the heroes of
> >all Tomino's series (except maybe Turn A) are newtypes, but still...
>
> I'm not convinced either. Newtype abilities simply make a pilot better, not
> invincible. (Unless you're Amuro Rei. ^_^)
>
and if you are Amuro Rei they might make you just a tad full of
yourself. remember in the movies when he ws fighting on earth? and he
blamed all of his misses on mis-aligned equipment?
> >Firstly, from what I know, Newtype abilities consist of rapid skill
> >development, improved perception, psychic abilities, and the ability to use
> >funnels/bits. These can be useful, but I don't think they guarantee
> >invincibility. The rapid skill development thing is good, but presumably a
> >human pilot with enough experience could gain a similar skill level.
> >My second reason has to do with the Wing series and the Zero system (I
> >personally am a part of the very small minority that believes that at least
> >some of the Wing boys are in fact newtypes (based on very small pieces of
>
> You've got another member here. I believe they are ALL newtypes, and so is
> Zechs.
>
and what about those time s Duo uesed that scythe of his on an MS that
was Behind him without looking (the standard MS cockpit even on most
Gundams is just three flat screens on the front and sides.. no view in
back)
> >evidence), but that's probably beside the point here). The Zero system
> >improves a pilot's skill by predicting the enemy's movements, much like
> >Newtypes can. However, I remember something about the effectiveness of
>
> Huh? I thought it improved their skill by taking their minds to another level?
>
i had assumed that it worked by collecting data from all the MS's
sensors, it's data banks, the Pilot's own mind, and crunched the numbers
in a super AI and then fed tactical advice based on that info directly
into the pilot's brain
> >this method decreasing as the pilot's skill increased, and use of the
> >system actually DECREASING the skills of Heero and Zechs... which would
> >mean, NT or not, they have skills equivalent to them.
>
> I don't recall Hiro and Zechs fighting worse in Wing Zero and Epyon...if
> anything, they fought a whole lot better.
>
i don't remember their being a degradation of thier pilot abilities
either, perhaps degradation in judgment due to prolonged Zero System use
> >Third, Amuro and Char, probably the best pilots in UC, aren't very powerful
> >Newtypes. If Newtype ability was that big a factor in skill, then
> >shouldn't the more powerful newtypes be the best pilots?
>
> Char might not be a strong Newtype, but Amuro sure as hell is. Look, he can
> communicate with the dead, manipulate and control his Funnels so well as to
> form an invincible Fin Funnel shield,
actually, that was technology if i remember correctly, the precursor ot
the beam shields of F91, which use adapted beam saber technology not
Psychoframe technology
and what's more, stop an entire
> asteroid from falling on the Earth! He's strong, no doubt about it. In fact,
> he might even be THE strongest Newtype if Quess, Lalah and Camille didn't exist.
>
> >Finally, there have been incidents of normal humans beating newtypes. Not
> >counting "first battle" scenarios, Amuro got his butt kicked by Ranba Ral
>
> Ramba Ral is the Aoi Kyosei. ^_^ And other people have sinec elaborated on
> why he got beaten.
>
> >the first time they fought, Quess was killed by Chien (don't think Chien
> >was a newtype, but it's been a while since I saw CCA), and Garoad beat
> >Kallis in Gundam X.
>
> Chien IS a Newtype, a latent one, but still a Newtype. More on that in
> another post...
>
> And again, as someone has said, Quess wasn't killed by Chien.
>
> >Things We Learn From Anime: A PO'd Tennyo on a murderous
> >search for vengeance is more attractive than an irritable
> >Japanese high school girl.
> >(Ayashi no Ceres episode 4)
>
> I second that. ^_^ Even Yuuhi realises that Ceres has more sex appeal...
>
> >"We Suzaku Seishi aren't smart enough to give up!"
> >- Tasuki, Fushigi Yuugi
>
> No, you aren't smart, period. ^_^
>
> Zhou Tai An (kain@pacific.net.sg)
>
> "There is no one simple truth." - Rune Walsh
>
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