Daniel Beckham (danbeck@dealnews.com)
Mon, 2 Oct 2000 10:59:25 -0500


Ok, ok. I apologize for my knee jerk reaction to the post. My post wasn't
very well thought out and didn't do anything positive for this Gundam
mailing list and I apologize for it. The flames are well deserved.

And -Z- as far as the two messages go, one was sent to the list and one was
sent personally to you. I should have only sent a personal e-mail to you
instead of the list. Think what you will, but that is the proper netiquette
on quite a few mailing lists.

Daniel

----- Original Message -----
From: "-Z-" <z@gundam.com>
To: <gundam@aeug.org>
Cc: <danbeck@dealnews.com>
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 10:51 AM
Subject: RE: [gundam] OT - QAZ Virus and DBZ on I-Channel

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-gundam@1u.aeug.org [mailto:owner-gundam@1u.aeug.org]On
> > Behalf Of Daniel Beckham
> > Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 07:03
> > To: gundam@aeug.org
> > Cc: z@gundam.com
> > Subject: Re: [gundam] OT - QAZ Virus and DBZ on I-Channel
> >
> > Why are you sending this crap to our mailing list? No one wants to see
> > another lame virus warning, nor any forwarded jokes or chain letters.
They
> > are all pretty much in the same category. Useless crap.
> >
> > Daniel
>
> Why are you sending this crap directly to me, Daniel, and not to our
mailing
> list, where your views might deter others from wrongdoing? As you can
see, I've
> corrected that oversight now. I've also added your name to my Bozo
filter, so
> if you wish to rebut you'll have to do it here.
>
> A few points, Mr. Beckham. First of all, it's not your place to tell
anyone how
> to behave, since [A} you could obviously use a few lessons in netiquette
> yourself and [B} that honor already belongs to Dave Van Cleef, our host
and
> administrator of this list. If my posts are out of line, he'll tell me,
not
> you. YOU can tell HIM that you thought my post was inappropriate and
leave it
> to him to deal with however he may, but if you want to express an opinion
about
> the content of a given post, the proper venue is the mailing list itself.
>
> Second, you should always READ a post and better still UNDERSTAND it
before you
> go off on a flame or tirade about it. The message in question was clearly
> labeled "Off Topic" -- that's what the "OT" prefix means -- and prefaced
with an
> apology and rationale for posting off topic. The message was not "another
lame
> virus warning" but a continuation of my reply to an earlier post by a list
> member who'd been infected by the QAZ Trojan and was concerned that others
may
> have also been so inflicted, possibly as a result of his posting to the
list
> while infected.
>
> The second part of my post, appended hereto in the interests of clarity,
> concerned anime on the International Channel, again in reply to an earlier
> inquiry by someone else.
>
> My post, albeit OT, contained no lame virus warnings, no forwarded jokes,
and no
> chain letters. If you go back through the Gundam Archives, you'll see
that I've
> made a considerable contribution to this list over the last few years,
none of
> which fall into any of the categories cited above. I don't recall seeing
your
> name on "our" list before and, in fact, the only thing I've ever seen from
you
> is this nastygram, which didn't even appear on the list.
>
> Third, you should send one and only one reply to any given message, not
the two
> identical replies that I received from you. Mistakes like that make you
appear
> to be a technoklutz, which tends to undermine your message as a whole, no
matter
> how salient and well reasoned.
>
> I'll cut you some slack because there have been a few spams on the list in
> recent days and you may be off your medication. But I suggest to you than
any
> messages from Daniel Beckham regarding "useless crap" appear to be a case
of the
> pot calling the kettle black.
>
> I further suggest that you follow the link at the end this message to the
Gundam
> Mailing List Archives and [A] see some of the dreck that routinely gets
posted
> here from people who have not yet had the benefit of your guidance and
reproof
> and [B] get some idea of what constitutes a worthwhile contribution, so
that you
> may emulate it accordingly.
>
> -Z-
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "-Z-" <z@gundam.com>
> > To: <gundam@aeug.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2000 1:14 PM
> > Subject: [gundam] OT - QAZ Virus and DBZ on I-Channel
> >
> >
> > > I don't usually post off-topic, but both of these topics have come up
> recently
> > > and I thought that some of you might be interested in hearing the
latest.
> > >
> > > The W32.HLLW.Qaz.A virus, also known as Qaz.Trojan and Qaz.Worm, is
> currently
> > > the second most submitted virus to the Symantec AntiVirus Research
Center.
> > > Norton AntiVirus has protected against this virus since July 18, 2000.
> Because
> > > W32.HLLW.Qaz.A can spread over networks by using shared folders and
enable a
> > > remote user to connect to and control the computer, Symantec suggests
only
> > > sharing folders with read-only access or using password protection.
For more
> > > information on this virus, including instructions on how to protect
your
> shared
> > > folders, point your browser to:
> > >
> > > http://service.symantec.com/vURL.cgi/nav57
> > >
> > > The International Channel is also showing Dragon Ball Z, Sundays at
9pm
> EST/6pm
> > > PST, with reruns the following Wednesday at 1am EST/10pm PST (followed
by
> the
> > > rerun of Armored Trooper Votoms). Unlike Votoms, DBZ appears to be
> unsubtitled
> > > Japanese. I say "appears" because I only caught the Next Episode
preview
> and
> > > closing credits, so it's entirely possible that I just saw the only
> unsubtitled
> > > portion of the show. Oh, by the way, the Japanese pronunciation of
"Z" is
> "Zed"
> > > as in the British fashion, not "Zee" as in the American.
> > >
> > > -Z-
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