KurenaiJiku (kurenaijiku@tech-base.com)
Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:43:03 -0700


I wasn't flaming you or anything, I was just saying "if you did this, then
you're this." It's all an "if" statement, so depending if you are or
aren't, my comments would be directed towards you or those who think in
such a way stated below.

>Hey, ease off. I'm not bashing American animation or glorifying anime here.
>I just wanted some opinions. You have to remember, I love America, and that
>won't change even if I do love another country like Japan or South Africa or
>Finland.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "KurenaiJiku" <kurenaijiku@tech-base.com>
>To: <gundam@aeug.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 4:10 PM
>Subject: Re: [gundam] Consider this scenario
>
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>I would love it every bit as much as any animation or story lover would.
>If you didn't liked it just because it wasn't Japanese made, then you're
>condemning american-made substances and materials just because they aren't
>Japanese made. You just like Anime because it's Japanese made. If you
>liked anything just because it's good, then you're not some fanboy who
>stereotypes and condemns everything else; you're actually thinking with
>your brain. For me, I like anything that's "good", and even dislike many
>types of Anime because it's poorly made, or can be made better. Before I
>watched X Men, I thought the movie would be some cheesy thing. However
>after watching it though...I was purely impressed and my thoughts was a
>majority of positive impressions. There's nothing wrong with
>"Americanized" personalities. Everybody is human, it's just how much
>creators exaggerate or stereotype a character's personality which makes it
>bad or good. Fiction is not fiction if they made a character's personality
>entirely realistic. They have to do stupid and smart things
>interchangeably in order for it to be entertaining.
>
>>If some American animation company, let's say Pixar, bought rights to
>Gundam
>>and produced another Gundam series, as deep and realistic as the others,
>and
>>the only difference was American animation, production, design, etc., how
>>many of you would disregard it? Would it make a difference to you if the
>>animation was the same quality or better (yeah, right), but it wasn't
>anime?
>>Would it matter if you could sense the American influence on everything
>from
>>the characters' personalities to the theme music? I'd really like to hear
>>your opinions on this!
>>I, for one, love Gundam for two main reasons: 1.) giant, gun-wielding,
>>mechas 2.) It's anime. So, from that, I can deduce that I would like it
>>about half as much.
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: <BlazeEagle@aol.com>
>>To: <gundam@aeug.org>
>>Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 9:55 PM
>>Subject: Re: [gundam] Will Gundam become the next fad?
>>
>>
>>In a message dated 7/24/00 9:42:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>>cbeilby@hotmail.com writes:
>>
>><<
>> >Yes it's personal preference. However, I don't see any good reason to
>>seek
>> >to prevent people from expressing their particular preference on this ML.
>>
>> Because, Chris, this topic has a bad habit of turning into flamewars. I
>> still have one member of the ML filtered from the fansub flamewar about a
>> month back. I don't want to see another, and after 20 years in anime
>> fandom, this is one of the topics that gets people hotter under the collar
>> than anything...

>> >>
>>
>> Excatly. Now, to safer topics. I do not want Gundam to be a fad, as fad's
>>don't last very long. If Gundam becomes a fad, most Gundam shows will never
>>be shown on US television, because with the US TV schedule, it will take
>>years to show all of Gundam! :)
>>
>> Most fad's only last a few years. Gundam has been around for 20 years and
>>there's so much Gundam stuff out there, that Gundam's going to need to hold
>>interest for years in the US. I mean, if we're lucky, stuff like Crossbone
>>Gundam, Gaia Gear and the various novels and manga's could get animated to
>>help keep interest in Gundam in the US, if Gundam in the US last's long
>>enough that the anime is exhausted.
>>
>> All that's been shown on US television is Wing. So, it seems likely only
>>one Gundam show a year will be shown, if interest in Gundam stays fairly
>>steady. By the time all the Gundam anime's shown in the US, there's likely
>>to
>>be 2-4 new Gundam show's waiting in the background, ya know! :)
>>
>> Some are tired of Gundam, but I think Gundam's still got plenty of life
>in
>>it. Bandai is constantly making new kits and toys of various Gundam shows,
>>so
>>that's got to mean there's still tons of Gundam interest in Japan yet. As
>>long as Gundam makes money for Bandai and Sunrise, Gundam will exist.
>>Gundam
>>will only cease to exist when Gundam no longer makes money. We all know if
>>Gundam wasn't still profitable, it would have been canned long ago.
>>
>> Aaron
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