Chris Maier (
Tue, 25 Jul 2000 17:59:06 -0400

I think he just meant the sorry state of American cartoons.....not the state
of America itself. Same with my post.

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From: KurenaiJiku <>
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Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [gundam] Consider this scenario

> I would love it every bit as much as any animation or story lover would.
> If you didn't liked it just because it wasn't Japanese made, then you're
> condemning american-made substances and materials just because they aren't
> Japanese made. You just like Anime because it's Japanese made. If you
> liked anything just because it's good, then you're not some fanboy who
> stereotypes and condemns everything else; you're actually thinking with
> your brain. For me, I like anything that's "good", and even dislike many
> types of Anime because it's poorly made, or can be made better. Before I
> watched X Men, I thought the movie would be some cheesy thing. However
> after watching it though...I was purely impressed and my thoughts was a
> majority of positive impressions. There's nothing wrong with
> "Americanized" personalities. Everybody is human, it's just how much
> creators exaggerate or stereotype a character's personality which makes it
> bad or good. Fiction is not fiction if they made a character's
> entirely realistic. They have to do stupid and smart things
> interchangeably in order for it to be entertaining.
> >If some American animation company, let's say Pixar, bought rights to
> >and produced another Gundam series, as deep and realistic as the others,
> >the only difference was American animation, production, design, etc., how
> >many of you would disregard it? Would it make a difference to you if the
> >animation was the same quality or better (yeah, right), but it wasn't
> >Would it matter if you could sense the American influence on everything
> >the characters' personalities to the theme music? I'd really like to
> >your opinions on this!
> >I, for one, love Gundam for two main reasons: 1.) giant, gun-wielding,
> >mechas 2.) It's anime. So, from that, I can deduce that I would like it
> >about half as much.
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <>
> >To: <>
> >Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 9:55 PM
> >Subject: Re: [gundam] Will Gundam become the next fad?
> >
> >
> >In a message dated 7/24/00 9:42:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > writes:
> >
> ><<
> > >Yes it's personal preference. However, I don't see any good reason to
> >seek
> > >to prevent people from expressing their particular preference on this
> >
> > Because, Chris, this topic has a bad habit of turning into flamewars. I
> > still have one member of the ML filtered from the fansub flamewar about
> > month back. I don't want to see another, and after 20 years in anime
> > fandom, this is one of the topics that gets people hotter under the
> > than anything...
> > >>
> >
> > Excatly. Now, to safer topics. I do not want Gundam to be a fad, as
> >don't last very long. If Gundam becomes a fad, most Gundam shows will
> >be shown on US television, because with the US TV schedule, it will take
> >years to show all of Gundam! :)
> >
> > Most fad's only last a few years. Gundam has been around for 20 years
> >there's so much Gundam stuff out there, that Gundam's going to need to
> >interest for years in the US. I mean, if we're lucky, stuff like
> >Gundam, Gaia Gear and the various novels and manga's could get animated
> >help keep interest in Gundam in the US, if Gundam in the US last's long
> >enough that the anime is exhausted.
> >
> > All that's been shown on US television is Wing. So, it seems likely
> >one Gundam show a year will be shown, if interest in Gundam stays fairly
> >steady. By the time all the Gundam anime's shown in the US, there's
> >to
> >be 2-4 new Gundam show's waiting in the background, ya know! :)
> >
> > Some are tired of Gundam, but I think Gundam's still got plenty of life
> >it. Bandai is constantly making new kits and toys of various Gundam
> >so
> >that's got to mean there's still tons of Gundam interest in Japan yet. As
> >long as Gundam makes money for Bandai and Sunrise, Gundam will exist.
> >Gundam
> >will only cease to exist when Gundam no longer makes money. We all know
> >Gundam wasn't still profitable, it would have been canned long ago.
> >
> > Aaron
> >
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