Chris Maier (
Tue, 25 Jul 2000 17:22:31 -0400

Well, most American animation quality apart from theatrical animation has
been sliding lately. Less detail/shading, for one, something that is
definetly anime's strength. Also, there are less switched camera angles.
There are some exceptions, like WB's shows, but for the most part most
American shows look ugly. Take for instance the original shows on Cartoon
Network and Nickelodeon, plus some of the stuff on Network TV(Although
Futurama has some nice animation, although still somewhat simple, I like the
CG/cell combos).
  But enough about my American animation rant. I think most American
attempts to make products and or series based on anime end up being messed
up, look at New Adventures of Speed Racer, and especially Voltron 3D. Plus,
I'm not a big fan of Adam Warren's comic takes on Dirty Pair and Bubblegum
Crisis .Then there are other foreign properties which got messed up, like
Godzilla and the British show Doctor Who, which suffered from messed-up
remakes.This actually works on both sides of the coin. Japan actually turned
Spider-Man into a wacked-out Sentai show!American money can enter a
project-take for example, Bubblegum Crisis 2040, Street Fighter Zero, Sin,
or Sol Bianca 2, which have American money put into them, but
----- Original Message -----
To: <>
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 11:12 PM
Subject: [gundam] Consider this scenario

> If some American animation company, let's say Pixar, bought rights to
> and produced another Gundam series, as deep and realistic as the others,
> the only difference was American animation, production, design, etc., how
> many of you would disregard it? Would it make a difference to you if the
> animation was the same quality or better (yeah, right), but it wasn't
> Would it matter if you could sense the American influence on everything
> the characters' personalities to the theme music? I'd really like to hear
> your opinions on this!
> I, for one, love Gundam for two main reasons: 1.) giant, gun-wielding,
> mechas 2.) It's anime. So, from that, I can deduce that I would like it
> about half as much.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 9:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [gundam] Will Gundam become the next fad?
> In a message dated 7/24/00 9:42:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> writes:
> <<
> >Yes it's personal preference. However, I don't see any good reason to
> seek
> >to prevent people from expressing their particular preference on this
> Because, Chris, this topic has a bad habit of turning into flamewars. I
> still have one member of the ML filtered from the fansub flamewar about a
> month back. I don't want to see another, and after 20 years in anime
> fandom, this is one of the topics that gets people hotter under the
> than anything...
> >>
> Excatly. Now, to safer topics. I do not want Gundam to be a fad, as
> don't last very long. If Gundam becomes a fad, most Gundam shows will
> be shown on US television, because with the US TV schedule, it will take
> years to show all of Gundam! :)
> Most fad's only last a few years. Gundam has been around for 20 years
> there's so much Gundam stuff out there, that Gundam's going to need to
> interest for years in the US. I mean, if we're lucky, stuff like Crossbone
> Gundam, Gaia Gear and the various novels and manga's could get animated to
> help keep interest in Gundam in the US, if Gundam in the US last's long
> enough that the anime is exhausted.
> All that's been shown on US television is Wing. So, it seems likely only
> one Gundam show a year will be shown, if interest in Gundam stays fairly
> steady. By the time all the Gundam anime's shown in the US, there's likely
> to
> be 2-4 new Gundam show's waiting in the background, ya know! :)
> Some are tired of Gundam, but I think Gundam's still got plenty of life
> it. Bandai is constantly making new kits and toys of various Gundam shows,
> so
> that's got to mean there's still tons of Gundam interest in Japan yet. As
> long as Gundam makes money for Bandai and Sunrise, Gundam will exist.
> Gundam
> will only cease to exist when Gundam no longer makes money. We all know if
> Gundam wasn't still profitable, it would have been canned long ago.
> Aaron
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