Robert Ludvig (
Mon, 24 Apr 2000 18:19:55 PDT

BlazeEagle, you are a fucking moron. You believe what you want to believe.
Do you have any basis for your accusation? NO. You are giving into the
"Gov't is bad and is out to get us" crap. You are blind. You believe what
the idiot protestors want you to believe. Were you there? Did you hear the

>Subject: Re: [gundam] OT: On Elian
>Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 19:37:42 EDT
>In a message dated 4/22/00 1:15:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> writes:
> > Oh Please. OH no, A reporter was SHOVED! Dear god!! If a reporter had
> > been shoved or injured in any way, why havent they made an issue of it
> > over the news? Why is there no outrage or hub bub over this? Please,
>if a
> > reporter was shoved, he was probably in the way. The family was on the
> > phone but there was NO advance in negotiation, a standstill. Why?
> > THE FAMILY REFUSED TO DO WHAT THE GOT ASKED. They had their chance, And
> > the family COULD have had weapons, what, you want to take the word of a
> > third party and believe they dot have any because someone says they dot?
> > NO.
> > They didn't shout "We'll shoot"...i mean come on, these are professional
> > officers of the law. I have several police officers in my family and
> > is why I am so ticked you say all this crap. Did you hear them say it?
> > That's what that 21 year old cousin said. I don't believe she is a
> > witness...I cant believe you could be so knaive. My hats off to the
> > officers in charge of the operation; they upheld the law, putting their
> > lives on the line (guns or no guns) to do what is right.
>You are blind!! They DID TOO say we'll shoot. Yes, I know they are
>professional officers of the law, but they also held & tear-gased CHILDREN
>well as adults and also held children at GUN POINT! The other children
>innocent, INNOCENT! I am not naive. If you cannot see the injustice of the
>level of violence used, then you truly are blind and can only see what you
>want to see, not the truth & to condone this level of violence being used
>without just & proper cause, then you are advocating the same type of
>government Castro runs. AT NOT POINT IN TIME, at NONE, was the family EVER
>ONCE told to turn Elian over without further adue. The family was NOT and
>had at NO TIME broke the law. Reno & her crowd has broken the law numerous
>times as well as broken their OWN promises & agreements. Research this
>to find out what the facts are, not be a idiot and believe only the
>propaganda Reno & Clinton wants you to believe to cover more of their law
>breaking methods. Castro is telling Clinton and Reno what to do and they
>doing what he wants as Clinton wants to restore relations with Cuba before
>leaves office so he has some good marks on his legacy. At no time has Reno
>put this childs best interest formost. The father could have come to claim
>his son at any time after he was found. Why did it take the father FIVE
>MONTHS, FIVE MONTHS to come claim his son? Why didn't he come to claim his
>son the first week, the second week, the first month? It is pointless to
>have to have an intelligent conversation with anyone who refuses to find
>the facts only goes by the propraganda.
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