Enriquez, Eric (EEnriquez@hatch.ca)
Wed, 29 Mar 2000 09:20:55 -0500


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> From: garrick lee[SMTP:goner4sure@yahoo.com]
> Reply To: gundam@aeug.org
> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 8:44 AM
> To: gundam@aeug.org
> Subject: Re: [gundam] My thoughts on Gundam 0080 and 0083
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> AAAAAAAAAAARGH!
>
> don't talk about my beloved macross that way!!!
> or i'll lock you up in a room and play reba west
> singing minmei all day.
>
Hey.... I'm going to report you to WWW.REBAWESTFANS.com

> eh...but actually, i agree with what emery said. :P
>
> except for a few parts -- i say macross and gundam
> both show how and why war is big no-no that kids
> shouldn't try at home (or anyone anywhere else, for
> that matter). it's just that gundam is preachier (and
> sometimes, unnecessarily heavyhanded and overwrought
> about it...it's like "ok ok i get the point already!
> quit hammering into my head!") about it, while macross
> has it's head up in the clouds all the time, being the
> space opera that it is, and not a gritty war story.
>
> macross wasn't about a holy war. and it NEVER
> glorified war! no no no. NO. i disagree as
> vehemently as i can (until i burst a jugular or two,
> and then i'll simply disagree in a coma).
>
> it was a war for survival, and not a single human
> character was there in macross that wished for war to
> happen or viewed war as the culmination of existence
> or catharsis of humanity's collective soul (ala trieze
> the warmonger, and i think he's one genius, but a
> sicko as well). the zentraedi defection is almost
> symbolic -- i don't find it stupid (some do, and i
> understand that) that minmei's singing (mari ijima and
> not reba west mind you -- the latter singing might
> just actually start a war...)
>
See response above.......

Didn't the song song by Mari Ijima "Do you remember love"
hit the Japanese top 10 if not number 1?

> turned a lot of
> zentraedis into gibbering fanboys. the point was that
> the zents found a better way to live -- a life without
> war, a life with proper culture (as represented by
> song in the macross universe...which seems to take the
> maxim "music is the universal language" a bit too
> seriously...). the fact that some of the zents
> reverted back to their warlike nature after getting
> bored with peace doesn't debunk this. it just proves
> that the zents were more like humans, than not -- that
> the zents can be as fickle and contrarian as humans.
>
>
>

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