John Kwok (
Wed, 23 Feb 2000 04:59:45 -0500

Hayato's curator position at the museum was just that, a curator. The feds
gave him a desk job since he, along with the rest of the WB crew, are
considered to be of varying degree, dangerous. He's not under house arrest
like Amuro because he is not a NT.

There was once a humourou sketch of the WB crew disembarking a shuttlecraft
at the end of the OYW by Yasuhiko. Sayla was seen sneaking off with the
trunk of gold!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tomonaga" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 4:49 AM
Subject: Re: [gundam] Char's family

> Mark Simmons wrote:
> > Tomonaga writes,
> >
> > >Zion Zum Daikun was assasinated by Degin Zabi using the old poison
> > >needle-in-a-ring weapon while Zion lay in bed in front of concerned
family &
> > >friends. This scene was animated and I'm sure it was included in the
> > Movies...
> >
> > Say what? When? Not as far as I've ever seen.
> >
> > Char does accuse Degin of "engineering" the heart attack which killed
> > his old man. That's as much detail as we ever get about Daikun's demise,
> > and it raises the possibility that Char and his foster father are
> > actually just Mulder-esque conspiracy freaks, avenging the untimely
> > of a man who simply ate one too many pork rinds.
> >
> I checked both the TV series and the Movies and you are right the scene
> omitted from the Movies and the whole conversation was reworked..
> The scene I'm talking about appears during Char's conversation with Sayla
> Texas Colony in Ep39 ' Reunion, Char & Sayla'. I don't consider myself a
> conspiracy freak but I am sure from the direction of the scene Degin
> added the final 'blow' that killed Zion.
> Zion is in his bed. Degin is standing close beside the bed. A doctor is
> on the other side of the bed from Degin. A blond woman is weeping face
down on
> the bed by the doctor. The bed is surrounded by a circle of people about
four or
> five deep.
> From the narration by Jinba Ral, it seems Zion already in his deathbed
from the
> initial poison, knew who was responsible for his present condition. Zion
> to speak up, raises his hand and points to Degin to reveal his assasin
> everyone assumes he was pointing to Degin to be his successor. Degin
> takes Zion's raised hand and what I believe administers the final dose of
> through his ring, Zion whispers something into Degin's ear and he dies.
Why the
> ring? They went to the trouble of drawing attention to it just before the
> touch. Also the expression on Degin's face during the scene, to me hinted
at his
> guilt. Also Jinba Ral was familiar with Zion's schedule for the day and
knew who
> was with him prior to his sudden illness.
> My theory is that the first poison didn't act as fast as Degin intended
and as
> insurance and for appearance sake he rushed to Zion's bedside to finish
him off
> before he told anyone the truth. Also I'm pretty sure references that I've
> are all certain that Degin assasinated Zion.
> If Degin did assasinate Zion, then he had to be there when he died right?
> ofcourse it was a really slow acting poison. As the scene showed he was
> there by his deathbed and in fact the last person to come into contact
with him
> and hear him speak.
> To me everything seems to fit so nicely so I would find it hard to believe
> that Zion death was completely natural. What a tragedy Gundam would be if
it was
> all a misunderstanding on Jinba Ral's part...
> However , you are right that Char's narration in the Movies over the
stills of
> the bedside scene do seem to suggest it is speculation at best.
> >
> > >I don't really know if or how evenly they divided up the gold though.
Of the
> > >White Base crew it seems some were much better off than others in later
> > years. I
> > >wonder if they even remembered to take the gold in the heat of battle
> > or divide it
> > >up...
> >
> > Well, Sayla did turn the gold over to Bright and tell him to divvy it
> > up among the crew.
> > Either gold doesn't go all that far in UC 0079, or
> > Bright nobly forfeited his share. He certainly doesn't seem that
> > in later shows. But Amuro's clearly well provided-for, and Hayato has
> > vanity space museum...
> >
> > -- Mark
> I thought she didn't want to keep any of the gold herself when she offered
it to
> Bright? I can definitely see several of the crew forfeiting their share
but I
> doubt Sayla would have accepted any of it herself let alone an even larger
> share. I guess most of it must have all gone to Amuro and Hayato. I guess
> got the most if you take into account Katsu, Retsu, Kikka, and Frau Bow's
> : )
> Tet
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