Robert Ludvig (
Tue, 25 Jan 2000 16:53:48 PST

I agree completely, Chris Beilby. *cept for the lesbian thing, even though
I like hot lesbians as much as the next guy, that brings the whole being gay
vs. other ppl's morality, a business which I think TV should steer away

>From: "Chris Beilby" <>
>Subject: RE: [gundam] Gundam Wing on Cartoon Channel (& Edit)
>Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 16:17:05 GMT
>> >As I mention in another post, it would appear that Bandai is submitting
>> >unedited version to Cartoon Channel, who does their own edit for content
>> >(violence mainly).
>>Does this mean Japanese TV is less sensitive about violence, even for
>>shows? I am a little confused here.
>For animation, very much so, Eddie, especially with the American
>preconception that animation is for kids. When Dragon Ball Z was brought
>over, significant portions were edited out of the series to make it
>supposedly suitable for american audiences. And if you look at Robotech
>versus the original Macross, you'll see it there too. Another good example
>was Space Cruiser Yamato. Some of the changes that were made to Yamato are
>laughable now (Such as the Gamilon's 'robot tanks' or the Captain's 'Spring
>Water' which was in reality, Sake.) However, the edits were made by the
>American distributor because of the show being for children.
>You can notice the trend in the evolution of american animation. The
>Brother's and MGM cartoons of the fourties and fifties, which were made as
>much for adults as they were for kids, are significantly more violent than
>Hannah-Barbara's offerings of the sixties and seventies. Likewise, with
>these same Hannah-Barbara, you can see this between the Space Ghost and
>Herculoid shorts of the Sixties, and the later shorts with the same
>characters of the seventies and eighties, or with the original Johnny
>and the Johnny Quest episodes made in the late eighties...
>The unfortunate thing about this trend is that it is the result of well
>meaning, but somewhat misguided parents, who think that kids should not be
>exposed to violence. While in principal they are correct, the means used
>are wrong. The kids see the cartoons which depict violence without
>conseqauence, and can get the idea that you can do it without anyone
>hurt (one of the worst offenders in this case was GI Joe, where a fighter
>could get shot down, and the pilot always escape...)
>Then there are the shows where there is so much that Americans deem as
>unacceptable to kids that they never make it over, even if it's a fan
>favorite. For example, Sailor Moon S and onward, where the yuri romance
>between Uranus and Neptune is the only thing keeping the episodes off of
>American TV. Personally, I see noting wrong with having two openly lesbian
>characters on a animated series (as long as nothing graphic is shown), but,
>unfortunately, many people aren't as open minded as I am.
>Basically, the general attitude in the United States seems to be 'Hide the
>kid's heads in the sand until they're 18.' But this is very unhealthy. We
>have to explain to them that these shows are only fiction, and that the
>things they see can be very dangerous... We've becone complacent in
>thinking that TV can be used as a babysitter, and forgotten some of the
>parent's responsibility in this...
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