Nightingale (msn04ii_nightingale@yahoo.com)
Wed, 12 Jan 2000 09:27:27 -0800 (PST)


Send to the wrong address, with no offense to anyone.
Sorry.

--- Nightingale <msn04ii_nightingale@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Leave this mess to the gurus. They think they are
> superiors than anyone else anyway.
>
> i'm facelifting the entire 08 mecha page right now -
> cut the unnecessary ""s, added back the ALTs,
> changing
> the link to "../../", made an update to Apsaras and
> Apsaras III page (new photos), all the sundry
> stuffs.
> 2/3 done, still have the Fed non-MS mechas and
> Gundam's gears pages to go. as for 0080's mecha
> pages,
> there'll be a major revision (i've bought the two
> 0080
> movie books from Asahiya, they are incredibly
> informative books) so i won't touch them for now.
>
> there'll be a major update from me this wkend.
>
> Colin.
>
> --- Chien Ting Chin
> <chinc@sten.sunnybrook.utoronto.ca> wrote:
> > On Tue, 11 Jan 100, Prabal Nandy wrote:
> > ^^^
> > Another GMLer (forgot who ^_^;) thought that you
> > went back to 1969, which
> > is a little strange, there was nothing exciting in
> > 1969, except for the
> > moon shot and ahem my birth. But 100 AD! now that
> > was a roaring good
> > time. I can totally imagine Probe as a Roman
> > reveler :)
> >
> > > Mark wrote:
> > > > * According to the Shindosha timeline, this
> > organization began as the
> > > > Federal Forces' Augusta research base, where
> the
> > RX-78NT1 Alex was
> > > > developed as an early effort to create
> > newtype-specific weapons. When the
> > > Well, I guess that makese sense... 0080 seems
> to
> > suggest it was
> > > constructed on Earth. (Wonder if that means it
> > doesn't have lunar
> > > titanium, hence it needed CHOBHAM armor?)
> >
> > Sorry to butt in here. Honestly I am really
> getting
> > overloaded by you
> > gurus. Just want to ask a few dumb questions,
> > apology in advance if the
> > questions are offensively dumb.
> >
> > So where is Augusta anyway? Everyone (including
> > myself up until now)
> > called it the 'Arctic Base', Mark even locate the
> > event at North Pole.
> > But does it make sense to hide a base _at_ the
> North
> > Pole? Surely it's
> > unnecessarily harsh? I've always assume it's
> > somewhere in Alaska, Baffin
> > Island, Greenland, Norway, Russia etc etc.
> > Consider:
> >
> > 1. Two Hygogs jetted out of sea and in less than a
> > minute they were all
> > over Augusta, so it must be pretty close to some
> bit
> > of ocean that's not
> > yet frozen in early winter.
> >
> > 2. The anime showed the attack to be conducted in
> > daylight (it was
> > actually in the morning, wasn't it?). But on
> > December 9, pretty much the
> > whole Arctic circle is in darkness, so Augusta
> must
> > be south of 67 degree.
> > Actually it can't be very far north of Anchorage
> or
> > Oslo.
> >
> > > So basically the Alex leads to the GM Custom,
> > leads to the GM Quell and
> > > then sorta indirectly to the Mk.II? Well, the
> > Custom and the Quell sure
> >
> > Ok I can buy into this lineage, except for all the
> > other MS that Titans
> > were using in early episodes of Z. Is GM Quell a
> > mainline MS for Titans
> > or not? If so, then by 0088, the Titans must have
> > dropped GM Quell in
> > flavour of Hizack. From Titans' personality, you
> > have to say the Hizack
> > is better than Quell, which is in turn better than
> > GM II, because that's
> > only a minor improvement over the 0079 GM. And GM
> > II is the mainline MS
> > for the Feds in 0088 right? Isn't that rather
> > funny? In 0083 you already
> > see the Feds with all kinds of cool GM variants,
> you
> > have the GM Kai,
> > GM Cannon, Powerd GM and don't forget the GM
> > Kastamu.
> >
> > Another question: other than GM Queel, Mk II,
> Psycho
> > Gundam and Psycho
> > Gundam II, what other Gundam/GMs were used by the
> > Titans? And how many
> > non-Gundam MS were used by Titans?
> >
> > AH HACK! Methinks the Gundam world is a more
> > sensible place if 0083 was
> > never made.
> >
> > Back in 1985, the story was simple, Gundam + Zaku
> ->
> > Hizack, Gundam ->
> > Gundam Mk.II, and GM -> GM II. Next you wedge in
> > 0080's Gundam Alex NT-1,
> > not a big deal it's pretty much just RX-78-4 and
> > afterall it was pretty
> > much destroyed before it saw real action, and the
> > writers humbly call it a
> > War in the Pocket. No big deal! NT-1 was a blip
> on
> > the screen. Then you
> > wedge in 0083's 3 Gundams! So how does that jive
> > with Z? You gotta
> > laborously destroy all 3 Gundams and then explain
> > how the records were
> > destroyed blah blah blah. And then they pay
> > lipservice to Z by explaining
> > the Titans and such and what did they roll out?
> Not
> > a proto-Hizack, but a
> > proto-Gundam-Mk.II in the guise of a GM? PLUEASE!
>
> > Ok ok the GM Quell was
> > a blip on the screen, figuratively and literally.
> I
> > swept it, and most of
> > the rest of 0083, under the mental rug. But now
> > this kit manual is trying
> > to tell me you can actually connect the dots from
> > 0079 to 0080 to 0083 to
> > Z? FERGET IT!
> >
> >
> >
> > CHIN, Chien Ting
> > Dept of Medical Biophysics, Sunnybrook Health
> > Science Centre
> > ... o O *
> > Man is a bubble
>
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