Kev K (
Sat, 02 Oct 1999 23:21:12 GMT

>From: "Su, Rodrick" <>
>To: "''" <>
>Subject: RE: [gundam] The battle of A Bao A Qu
>Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 09:06:17 -0700
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kev K []
> >
> >
> > Okay new topic folks. In the third Gundam Movie, "Encounters
> > in Space", we
> > see the climatic battle between the Feds and Zeons. What
> > bothers me is the
> > fact that Zeons lost the war to the punny Feds. We know that
> > Zeons have the
> > outdated Zakus going up against the more agile and better
> > equipped GM. But
> > what about the Gelgood units?? Weren't they designed to
> > tackle Gundam or
> > the GMs??
>Remember an overwhelming number of GM can make up the difference between
>experience and inexperience. As for GM, it is just a bit worst off than
>Gelgoog, with the vast majority of medium to great Zeon pilots being killed
>@ Solomon, Zeon has been filling Rick Dom and Gelgoog with student pilots
>like Bernie Wiseman of 0080. By then, Federation have had some pilots of
>great abilities like Burning and Sanders.
> > Well, my speculation is this, the Zeons lost the
> > battle because
> > they lost all their valuable Tacticians. Giren Zabi, he's
> > very much like a
> > Hitler figure, extremelly cunning and a master tactician.
> > Kishiria Zabi,
> > don't know much about her tactic abilities but I assume she's
> > not very far
> > from Giren. Delaz, ran away, nuff' said. ^_^ So without
> > these commanders
> > in action the whole Zeon army were probably all confused and
> > had no clue
> > what to do. It's really a shame to see it end this way. I
> > expect the Feds
> > to Nuke A Bao A Qu or something. Hehe I guess after seeing
> > the game Giren's
> > Greed I've been craving for the alternative ending. So this
> > is only my
> > speculation, no real proofs or anything so don't go picky on
> > details. I
> > just want to share my views with fellow gundam fans.
> >
>I won't debate about Giren's intelligence, but I will say that he appeared
>to have several blind spots in his thinking. In his quest for power, he
>horded all of the good stuff for his domain, The Home Defense Fleet. If
>Solomon had gotten its fair share of Gelgoog, it wouldn't have been the
>bloodbath that it became. With that in mind, he managed to loose some of
>his best pilots on Solomon.
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Also let's not forget that the Zeons were caught by surprise when the Feds
used the Solar System weapon to annihilate the big fleets stationed in
Solomon. Let's not forget the Zeons weren't too organized in their
counterattacks. The majority of the Solomon survivors went to Axis for
refuge. And the force stationed in Granada did absolutely nothing or that
how it seemed when they showed the series. So the Zeons weren't really using
their whole army's might to counter the Feds. What bugs me is the fact
Giren didn't use his solar weapon against the Feds during the battle of A
Bao A Qu. That could've been a big difference. One big shoot concentrated
on the core of the fleet and bye-bye resistance. That happened in the end
of Zeta gundam. Any Zeta fans here? ^_^
    One interesting point though, the major aces we see Zeons lost are those
who went to tackle against gundam. You mentioned that the Zeons were filled
with the majority of their pilots fresh from the school. But isn't that's
the same with the Feds?? I mean the Zeons established their MS training
camps much earlier than the Feds. And we saw the GM out only during the
middle of OYW. That means the Feds couldn't have developed that many aces in
a short time compared to the Zeons. So shouldn't the Zeons have more
advantage over the Feds?? I would have to agree with you that is the
overwhelming numbers of capital ships that really made the difference.

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